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08 February 2018 22:36 Post ID: #77474 - in reply to #77382
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Baghdad: most warehousing is driven by bar coding etc with little manual intervention. Things have indeed changed since your student days.
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08 February 2018 23:10 Post ID: #77480 - in reply to #77474
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Wayne.Kerr - 8/2/2018 22:36

Baghdad: most warehousing is driven by bar coding etc with little manual intervention. Things have indeed changed since your student days.


So how do the barcodes move the trolleys from the lorry to the warehouse? Barcodes don't have arms.
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09 February 2018 06:46 Post ID: #77491 - in reply to #77480
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Baghdad_Rob - 8/2/2018 23:10

Wayne.Kerr - 8/2/2018 22:36

Baghdad: most warehousing is driven by bar coding etc with little manual intervention. Things have indeed changed since your student days.


So how do the barcodes move the trolleys from the lorry to the warehouse? Barcodes don't have arms.


Like Wayne says, things have changed
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09 February 2018 06:54 Post ID: #77492 - in reply to #77276
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It is Warehouse work that the introduction of Robots will cause the most job losses. In a large Distribution Centre you are looking at a process where the only humans are sitting behind a screen,with the drivers performing the loading themselves.
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09 February 2018 07:01 Post ID: #77495 - in reply to #77480
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Barcodes won't move pallets etc but it removes the need etc for humans to intervene
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09 February 2018 15:18 Post ID: #77548 - in reply to #77276
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Nothing new - I was putting in fully atomated lights out warehouses with wireless and robotic technology at least 20 years ago. Most new warehouses have caught up but it does depend on the size and complexity of the warehouse And how much pallet splitting and ‘dispensing’ is required.
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09 February 2018 15:25 Post ID: #77549 - in reply to #77276
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09 February 2018 15:55 Post ID: #77552 - in reply to #77276
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Lol, cannot agree with rioting or physical action where there is no end game or strategy to accomplish some improvement for people. Sometimes the last resort is violence but generally Organisation and steady persistence takes more effort and sacrifice than a bit of violence.

I believe the physical nature of Cable street and the 1970s anti fascist struggle on the streets of London was justified as people's lives were being threatened but non violence worked in the case of Gandhi and ML King.
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09 February 2018 16:48 Post ID: #77555 - in reply to #77276
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Gandhi and Martin Luther King were important to their own peoples' struggles but their importance is overplayed by the establishment precisely because they were non-violent. As a consequence the popular opinion is that the achievements of their people were accomplished using only non-violence.

Their actions would have had less impact if not also accompanied by those who were prepared to use violence against their oppressors. The struggle against colonial rule in India was often violent and it is arguable that without this accompanying violence Gandhi would not have achieved what he did. This article is worth reading, jerry:
http://www.independent.co.uk/world/the-forgotten-violence-that-help...

Similarly, ML King is the civil rights campaigner who is championed but would the (relative) change in circumstance for black people in the US have been achieved if the struggle had been only non-violent? I think not and believe that the Black Panthers (and others) deserve to take some of the credit.

Basically, when change is required ALL methods and approaches are important. By the ballot or by the brick.

Edited by Buddha 9/2/2018 16:51
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09 February 2018 22:19 Post ID: #77572 - in reply to #77276
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Agree with that to an extent, but there was a strategic aim.

I believe you can argue that the us civil rights struggle was strengthened by some of the more violent resistance but could not have been done without King as the violence was gladly met with violence from the government. When the black panthers exercised the right to bear arms the constitution was changed and most of the black panthers leaders were killed/murdered (some evidently when ‘escaping from prison with a gun’ ! ). The whole movement was heavily infiltrated and paid off by the FBI who supported the violence so that counter violence could be used.
Malcolm x was tollerated when he was a violent black separatist but as soon as he had gone to mecca and realised that black and white were equally disadvantaged and called for joint action against oppression he was also murdered.
King realised that only by following Gandhi’s philosophy that the way forward was to trouble the conscience of people who although on one hand hated blacks also were troubled on the other hand by seeing innocent hymn singing people being brutalised in the media.

In the case of india I believe that the violent elements held the cause back as Gandhi’s policies were against the economic and religeous interests of the Raj and indian religeous fanatics. It has to be remembered that Ganghi had already had success with this cvil disobedience process in South Africa and Natal. When the religious fanatics joined the british in the devide and rule policy resulting in most of the violence only Gandhi stood in the way and he thad to be killed otherwise there would have been peaceful independence without partition.
A caveat here though is that Gandhi himself admitted that this non violent approach could never have worked if the Japanese had invaded India. So it’s horses for courses.

Oh, yes - definitely non gills lol.


Edited by Jerryattrick 9/2/2018 22:38
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09 February 2018 22:54 Post ID: #77574 - in reply to #77276
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Violence rarely achieves anything but suffering - and then mainly on those protesting with violence.
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09 February 2018 23:17 Post ID: #77575 - in reply to #77276
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Always an issue when calling for or causing regime change to a strong government that is keeping a lid on ethnic violence. In the name of human rights or some perceived threat thousands upon thousands of people killed or displaced into suffering in places like Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Syria, Yemen etc and these are only the latest.
Strange we don't seem to have any moral outrage or talk about regime change in Myanmar where they are ethnically cleansing at least 600,000 people of which 200,000 are in grave danger when the annual floods come causing land slides in the refugee camp.
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09 February 2018 23:21 Post ID: #77576 - in reply to #77276
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Deary me I thought this was about Tesco. Who wrote "a slightly hire wage rate in order to encourage people to apply"? Exactly. How does a points system factor in supply and demand?


Edited by Straightbat 9/2/2018 23:22
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09 February 2018 23:57 Post ID: #77577 - in reply to #77276
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The Russians are interfering with the board!
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10 February 2018 10:27 Post ID: #77589 - in reply to #77376
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ThreeSixes - 8/2/2018 08:43

NedFlanders - 8/2/2018 07:19

In terms of this issue, however, facing customers should be given more priority to a company in my opinion and also be more highly respected in society.


That's not how things are going though, in the Tesco in Canary Wharf 95%+ of people go through the self scan tills. There is an Amazon supermarket in Seattle which doesn't even have checkouts, you just pick up what you want from the shelves, and then go.


You're absolutely right about that. But i was making a more general point about cases where human interaction is needed. Such as waiting staff, store assistants who help us find items etc. These people are the face of the companies they work for and whilst i don't think they should be paid fortunes for what they do, they certainly shouldn't be looked down upon by a society that would complain the instant they weren't 100% smiley and friendly.
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